Blacklisting Patients

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Expectations influence perception.

Ever try to get iatrogenic injuries diagnosed and treated? Good luck.

There is a list of reasons defeating succeeding with that. For one thing, the knee jerk reaction of health care professionals is that your claim is frivolous. They just don’t believe you. But there are more reasons.

For one thing, there won’t be any record of it. For another, the person who caused it will brand you as a difficult patient, at the least, and spread lies about you. For another, it can damage the career of a health care professional to diagnose iatrogenic injuries because the rest of the medical community will turn on him or her for doing that. And “you can’t let one patient ruin your whole career.”

There are more reasons beyond those, but the point is that patients who have been injured by their treatment providers are treated differently than other patients.

As Nate Silver says, in the book at left, we unconsciously let biases based on expectation or self-interest affect our analysis.

Doctors are not supposed to be critical of other doctors. That is a matter of law some places. It is both an unwritten and a written law. If they violate it, their own careers can be hurt – a highly influential self-interest that gets little recognition in a world that imagines itself to be above self-interest.

What health care providers are willing to believe is strongly effected by what result those beliefs will have on themselves and their profession as a whole. They are better off imagining that all those injured patients are frivolous cranks. Then they can do things they can rationalize when imagining themselves or their group to be under attack.

They don’t believe they injure patients

You could be excused for thinking that since they caused the injuries to the patient that patient should be their next patient. They do not think that way.

What makes sense to them is defense and denial. What doesn’t make sense to them they don’t write down.

When injured patients submit themselves for treatment to physicians who don’t believe what the patients report, no record is made of it.

Actually, if they do believe it they probably are even less likely to make a record of it ( see loyalty). If they feel the need to note something about why the patient was there, they may ask a series of questions, or perhaps the same question in a series of different ways, until an answer is given that they are comfortable writing down.

  • “When did you first notice the symptom?”
  • “How long after the operation was it before you THOUGHT you noticed this?”
  • “Was there ever a time prior to this when you had a similar symptom?”
  • “Have you ever had an accident or sports injury or illness that produced a similar symptom?”

It is a cross examination fishing for any piece of information that can be used to reject the patient’s claim. If twenty questions do not do that, but the twenty-first can be repeated out of context in a way that will seem to, that can get written in the record.

Living in a fictitious world built on a denial of facts.

If they never get an answer they want to put in the record, they still aren’t likely to record any of the ones that they don’t like. The patient probably will be asked if he/she has been back to see the surgeon (or whoever injured the patient). If not, that is the course of action that will be recommended and the appointment effectively will be over.

Any real attempt to examine the patient will be unlikely, in part because no one in medicine wants to verify injuries that could be used to indict someone else in medicine, and in part because no one in medicine wants to get dragged into court to testify. If the patient has been back to the surgeon already, the doctor usually will ask what the surgeon said, and it almost doesn’t matter what the patient reports about that. The doctor will agree, often by saying something like “Well, that surgeon has a very fine reputation and I’m confident that he/she knows what he/she is talking about.” But no real exam, and no record of the patient’s claim. Even if the patient is poked and prodded, even if a CT scan is done because the patient demanded it. When these things are done by people who do not want to find injuries, they don’t.

Sunshine can deprive bad actors of the secrecy needed to act badly

When a doctor, either the one who caused the injuries or one of the ones applied to for help, labels the patient as crazy and telegraphs that to other doctors, along with the notion that this patient could harm a colleague, a received view emerges in the medical community to which all others unthinkingly conform. They don’t recognize their own self-interested cloud of clichés, false assumptions and lies as they turn the white wall of silence into into a blacklist with nothing more than a phone call or a nuance in a referral negatively branding the injured patient. This isn’t just remaining silent. This is going further and spreading the word to make sure others do too.

Interestingly, when they no longer can deny that a colleague was, for instance, a serial killer, health care professionals who are asked why they don’t report colleagues who are murdering patients, sometimes say things like that they didn’t because the system lacks a way to spread the word (see Cullen). But when the problem is the fact that the reputation of another health care professional could be blemished, they find lots of ways to spread words to prevent that.

A surreal level of honesty

Physicians assume a level of honesty from their peers that is beyond what reasonably can be expected from human beings. They do not anticipate the obfuscation of having caused injuries to patients. Apparently they imagine that those who injure patients, either accidentally or on purpose, will not have rationalized their behavior, even to the point of not recognizing their own behavior, and will write in the record what they did that injured the patients. In fact, the standard behavior is to not write in the record that there are injuries.

A patient arriving claiming to have been injured by another health care professional cannot get this next one to make such a record either. Instead, the patient tends to be regarded as a crazy person who potentially could ruin the career of an innocent colleague. When most injured patients are treated differently than all other patients, isn’t that really just profiling? And in what way does that produce a different result than blacklisting?

Institutional Blindness

There also can be some influence from what some have called institutional blindness. Like if you went to the police to report that while you were away some of your possessions had been stolen, all the police would know for sure is that you are reporting that you cannot find some of your possessions. They do not know who else has keys to your home or what else might account for their being missing and so write down only what they know, that you are reporting possessions being missing. Medical records written in this way at least would record that you have complaints and believe you have been injured, even if they do not record the who, what and where of the cause you have reported.

However, when medicine will not even acknowledge that there are injuries, that pushes it beyond mere blindness. Patients seeking only medical help are asked how they got injured and, if they answer that someone else in medicine caused it, open up a world of medacity and manipulation that further injures them. If they look at their records later they can find fanciful, if not pejorative, statements claiming the patient reported the opposite of what the patient reported. That’s doctors lying.

C43.4

C43.4 is one of the diagnosis codes that could appear in your record after trying to get treatment for an iatrogenic injury. It is part of the the International Classification of Diseases, Tenth Revision (ICD-10) which has more than 141,000 codes. You can look up the codes on the internet by searching on “ICD-10 codes” to see what the codes in your chart mean (the links to that keep changing). C43.4 is the code for “Malignant Neoplasm of the Neck,” which is a supposed to identify a particular physical problem in your neck (most commonly suspicious masses and adenopathy), but also can be a way to communicate to other caregivers that you are a pain in the neck.

F68.1 is the code that more transparently identifies a patient believed to be feigning symptoms or disabilities. Unfortunately, with electronic records, these diagnoses can follow patients forever.

Health care professionals also can find ways to protect their careers and their belief in their profession by imagining that the patient has Somatoform disorder. In Somatoform disorder, the patient does not consciously feign symptoms (which would be known as facetious disorder) or fabricate them in order to get or achieve something (known as malingering), but actually believes he/she has real injuries. Odd when, in fact, it is the health care professionals who actually believe that the patient who has real injuries doesn’t.

There are many words for diagnosing what health care professionals have an interest in believing to be incorrect thinking on the part of patients. Why are there none to label incorrect thinking on the part of the caregivers? The word “misdiagnosis” is too simple and innocent for it, but is there a code for that? There needs to be more sophisticated labels for the more sinister practices harming patients. Otherwise how will any of that be diagnosed so that it might be healed? Or so it at least will not continue to harm the patient?

Misdiagnosis Codes

What would be the correct diagnosis code to describe the originator of the falsehoods that were recorded to cover up the problem? What would be the one to describe all of the caregivers who uncritically fell in line with those lies and by so doing enforced that label as the only history on the matter?

How can you solve a problem that you cannot correctly diagnose and label?

A more Sinister Darkness

People who are victims of natural disasters, like hurricanes and earthquakes, usually escape having psychological baggage weigh them down for long afterwards. People who are victims of disasters caused by humans, like the Exxon Valdez, have a higher rate of mental trauma. But at least that was an accident.

People who are victims of injuries incurred in medicine suffer more. Especially when the injuries were caused intentionally. And is there any other way to describe the injuries caused by not getting care for the original injuries when health care professionals will not diagnose let alone treat them?

Treating patients as though they are the enemy

What do we call the injuries caused by being surrounded by a community that is determined to make it appear as though the problem is the patient. That is the special form of mobbing and bullying reserved by the community of health care professionals for patents.

What would be the label for health care professionals conspiring to injure the victim in order to protect reputations and/or careers and/or their belief in their own malarkey?

Somatoform Diagnosis?

Whatever the label, when patients cannot get even recognition of their injuries, let alone treatment, because caregivers have such a strong need to disbelieve in the injuries, and there is no place those patients can go to find an advocate who honestly has their interests at heart, is the situation that has been created for patients anything short of evil? That is commonly what happens to injured patients.

It is not uncommon for people never to recover from having a group of people singling them out for unjust, and sometimes life-ruining, treatment.

Do you think you can find anyone in medicine who even is aware of having done that? The mental gymnastics they do to arrange their beliefs in ways that leave themselves feeling righteous are disturbing to behold.

Culture

One of the ways they do this is with theories and learned articles about how to create a “culture of safety” or a “culture rich in reporting” or a “culture of respect” (for instance, this article by Leape). I’ve written more about that on this site at Silence VS Safety.

What medicine has is a “culture of collusion and cover-up” about which they are defensive, protective and in denial. It is one of the features of our health care system that is so firmly entrenched that it is not recognized. The beliefs, habits and self-interests that create it are the norm. They even write articles about how being less critical of the care of other physicians would be better for patients. And how forming “huddles” on a regular basis to create agreement on the “facts” will make medicine safer for patients, without any sense of the ways in which those practices can be used to do just the opposite in a world where providers stay focused on processes, instead of outcomes, and patients can get no reliable information that would enable them to be a check on the problems created.

Those are the only people to whom injured patients can turn for help.

Caregivers need only be on the same page.

Patients need mechanisms that can help them protect themselves when their caregivers turn on them.

Blacklisting is mischaracterized by the medical community in order to deny its existence in their own minds as well as in the public’s. They dismiss it as though blacklisting required a physical list being passed around. It can happen with no communication between physicians at all, as long as they are on the same page, as though they had a list.

Being surrounded by others who share your perspective is a powerful reinforcement

No one in medicine thinks that blacklisting is an issue. For them, it isn’t. It is not happening to them. So they never are going to pay attention to it, let alone fix it. If the well being of patients were their first priority, they would. But it’s not. And their perspective is too self-serving to see that. Injured patients need someone with a different perspective.

“Every doctor will allow a colleague to decimate a whole countryside sooner than violate the bond of professional etiquette by giving him away.” – George Bernard Shaw

It’s nothing new. Fortunately, it can become a thing of the past, if the patient community stops repeating what it always has done in the past, which mainly is imagine that health care professionals and/or the government can fix this for them.

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All that is necessary for speech to be libel or slander or defamation is for one party to say something untrue to another party and have that second party believe it. It does not have to be widely broadcast. When the health care professional who injured the patient tells lies about the patient to other health care professionals in order to protect him or herself, why is there never a suit brought for defamation? It can cause additional physical injuries when patients cannot get treatment for the original injuries (see a case where a patient did, on another site, when it didn’t even cause injuries).

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18 thoughts on “Blacklisting Patients

    1. They say that you are often diagnosed in a matter of seconds, no wonder the average appointments in Ontario are 7 minutes long and the college is or was advocating single topic visits, in the best interests of the patients of course.

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      1. I’ve been blacklisted by doctors because I’ve been been harmed more than once and I’m amazed that they can sleep at night knowing how many people they have killed. And another pet peeve I have are dishonest lawyers and judges they are just bad the corruption in our society is staggering

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  1. Hello! This is my 1st comment here so I
    just wanted to give a quick shout out and tell you I really enjoy reading your
    blog posts. Can you recommend any other blogs/websites/forums that deal with the same subjects?
    Thanks!

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  2. Hi, I just found your blog and want to let you know about mine too; http://www.PatiemtsRightsAdvocate.com Be sure to read the entry called The Dark Man; https://patientsrightsadvocate.com/2015/12/28/the-dark-man/ and Emory Patient Banned for Giving Negative Feedback; https://patientsrightsadvocate.com/2016/06/15/emory-patient-banned-for-giving-negative-feedback/

    The healthcare corporation that went after me was so cocky they sent me letters trying to shut me up, and then kicked me out (also in writing) after I utilized proper channels (most of which they recommended on their own website)!

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    1. Hi Erin, I really couldn’t say. I don’t think there is anything you can do about, you have no right to health-care in my understanding but, I’m not a lawyer, and can’t give you advice. If you can afford justice, I’d hire a lawyer, it’s really your only hope given the complete bigotry our justice system still displays against self-represented litigants, even after our Supreme Court, said they must start being fair.

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  3. I’ve been blacklisted. Had an endometrial ablation. Was in agony. Obgyn ignored me when I was septic. Multiple ER visits. She wrote in my patient charts once I dealt with my past trauma my pain would improve. Bit was she wrong. I was already afraid of doctor having been sexually assaulted by once in 2001. No one believed me. My uterus was too small to have been ablated. Hence confirmed in my pathology report. I was left in agony with uterine contractions for 5.5 months. Vomited from pain. Couldn’t keep a bottle of Ensure meal replacement a day. Tried to work to make ends meet my income supports my aging disabled parents. Past out at the wheel performing my job. Still not believed. Forced a psych evaluation. It was not a mental health issue. I stated it multiple times. I had never declared the sexual assault by a doctor and when I did my family doctor fired me as a patient. I’ve got audio. I started recording audio because what I was being told and what was happening were 2 different things and yet no one believed me. I also have the recording of my visit with the obgyn after she ignored how sick I was. When I was septic she had the nerve to come to my bedside and tell me I was so adamant at having a hysterectomy that I was bellyaching to have one. English is not my strong language. I had to look up what adamant meant. I called her on what she said and I have it recorded. When I state it she threatened to rip my insurance forms therefore my 70% disabled income would have become zero. I was losing the house and my vehicle in financial ruin because no one would treat me because of her medical bias. At the local ER I was belittled and screamed at that I was wasted Hospital time and ressources. Yet I was so ill I had written my will passwords to my accounts and phone numbers to place my pets. She refused to refer me being a gate keeper. She even lied about referring me. Told me I was referred but when I called the place referred to they had never heard of me. She refused to fill my travel grants adding to more pressure in being able to afford to travel to get care. She poisoned my referrals stating it was all a mental health issue. First appointment Pitt of town doctor wouldn’t even make eye contact. Second appointment by then I was 90
    Pounds lighter took me serious. Had she not I was taking my life that day. I had a friend attend with me. I have that recorded too. You hear me fall apart when I get a surgical date. It was 2.5 weeks later. Those 2.5 weeks were hell. I laid in my own urine and vomit on my bathroom floor too weak to move. I had chest pain and refused to call the paramedics knowing I’d end up back at my local ER to be treated poorly again. I’ve found out through a hospital employee that my file has been blacklisted. I contacted the college of physicians and they’ve blown me off too. I’m appealing the decision. Now I have a lump and an indentation in a breast and I haven’t told anyone. I don’t care to. I’ve known since last October. I’ll take my chances. Whatever happens happens. I’m enjoying my summer like it’s my last. I know also have hyperthyroidism. I’m to see a nurse practitioner tomorrow and I’m absolutely terrified. I’ve been offered nothing in counselling to deal with these issues. The doctor that sexually assaulted me is going to court again in November. I’m woman number 6.

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    1. I’m really sorry all this happened to you Christine. By telling our stories, and fighting for oversight, accountability and transparency in medicine, we can help make medicine safe for everyone. Thanks for sharing your story. I hope everything starts getting better for you soon! Barb

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    2. Hi Christine,

      I’d like to chat with you as I have had a very similar experience. Do you have an email address?
      Jen

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  4. Hi Again,

    Since leaving the biggest healthcare system in Georgia (when you last heard from me), I have had to endure one incident after another of patient blacklisting; each doctor with their own unique spin. It is a living hell and as I continue to age my conditions get worse and more diseases get stacked on top of each other. My pain is increasing. The last thing left, my pain medication, is now being threatened, and I sit here accused of something behind my back that no doctor in my life has ever accused me of until now…addiction. I am about the most unlikely person to be addicted to anything. After 16 years I am still on one of the mildest narcotics there are and my dosage has stayed the same all these years. I have never abused it, never attempted to get the same prescription from different doctors in the same month, nor have I ever taken more than 2 tablets at a time. My prescription says I can take it as often as every 4 hours if necessary and yet a rarely do, I don’t go to several ERs a week asking for stronger pain medication, and in fact I have turned it down when stronger and more addictive drugs have been offered to me by doctors because I don’t like the way those make me feel.

    This current primary care doctor I have that comes to my house because it’s too difficult now for me to be up long enough to go to a doctor’s office wrote the correct amount once or twice and then pretended to be absent-minded and wrote one short prescription after another month after month, ranging anywhere from 60 pills to 120, to 180. To my face she said she was fine with prescribing 190 tablets a month fine with the fact that I needed to be able to take either one or two at a time depending on my pain level, but her actions were inconsistant with her words. It soon became apparent that she was doing this intentionally, and was taking it out on me all the more that I was following up to have it corrected. My phone calls stopped being answered and I did not have any contact with her for at least 2 months (although she had said she would make a home visit monthly). I left patient portal messages for both her and the doctor she worked under asking that they correct the prescription and speling out how much I normally am dispensed. I knew that if one didn’t check e other would so surely they would get it straight then, but no, they didn’t. I only found out what was really going on behind the scenes when my Medicaid Caseworker went out there to get a paper prescription and she wrote it short again. He asked her why it was 180 instead of the 190 I was supposed to get and all she would say to him was “This is what is recommended.” One or two days later he wrote an advocacy email to her and ccing it to me asking her to correct the prescription, to which she answered rudely “No, I WILL NOT correct the prescription. She can go to Pain Management and have them handle her pain medication if this is not sufficient.”

    It was not until I sent my home care aid down there to ask that any “reason” was given. A receptionist told my aid that neither the doctor I see nor her two colleagues were in (although patients were in the waitingroom. She talked to her from behind glass and when my aid asked her why my medication amount had been dropped she said “Oh, are you talking about (then said my full name)?” In front of and in earshot of 4 or 5 patients in the waitingroom, she went on to put her hand to her chest and say “Well, (X the PA), and Dr. (X) feel that she’s addicted to her medication and that’s why they’re giving her 180 instead of 190.” That right there was a HIPPA violation on several counts;
    1) The receptionist should never have been told this by the medical professionals, and
    2) Speaking about it in a public waitingroom where other patients would easily overhear it is doubly unethical.
    3) Technically she shouldn’t have even said this to my aid (but I let that go because I had asked that my aid get to the bottom of it and come back to tell me what she found out).

    My aid said “How are you going to say she’s addicted to this medicine and then drop the amount when you have not seen or spoken to her in at least 2 months? You don’t know what’s going on with her! I am with her 7 hours a day. I know how much pain she’s in! Some mornings she’s in so much pain she can barely hold her fork to eat breakfast! If I thought she was addicted I wouldn’t be driving 50 miles to get here, would I! We would have just taken the 180. You all are letting your feelings get in the way of your job!

    None of the people in the office were wearing name tags, so she asked that receptionist what her name was, and she replied “I’m not going to tell you.” Then she told her to “calm down.” She was raising her voice because she could tell they were being really underhanded and trying to weasel out of taking responsibility for their actions. She said “No, I’m not going to calm down! I want to know why you drop her medication amount without even seeing or speaking with her!” to which the receptionist repeated herself and then said “They want her to go to Pain Management.”

    My aid said to her “Well what Pain management doctor do they want her to go to? What’s his name? They have not told us anything!”

    The receptionist just stammered and leaned away from her but didn’t give her a name of anybody. Then she got her name and email address and said she’d be in touch, but she never did. It was the same stonewalling that had been happening to me.

    The next day I sent a patient portal message to the PA who had been making the home visits previously, and let her know I was aware of the loose talk going on in that office, told her that I’m sure she knows that is a HIPPA violation, and that my following up to correct the prescription is NOT evidence of addiction, but it is what any reasonable person would do to get a mistake corrected. I told her I had every right to know what was going on and that I did not know it was intentional until I had to find out through a 3rd party and that since she had not been in contact with me to even assess something like that she could not make that kind of stigmatizing judgment about me.

    I called this morning to get a release form to obtain my records.

    I’m in the catch 22 situation of needing to find another doctor and yet I don’t see any point because he or she’ll just get the misinformation passed on from her.

    If I eventually am taken off my pain medication because of this rumor I’m as good as dead, and even more worrisome is that I may have been flagged in the DEA database which all doctors can access. If I find out that’s the case then I will probably never get medical care for the rest of my life and will die an agonizing death. Honestly I can’t take much more of this. It has reached such a point that I can’t trust anybody now. It’s getting increasingly difficult for me even to carry out those things I have to engage with people on. I am in the process of doing my bucket list and getting things set for my son to inherit my very limited estate. I can only hope that what I’m doing to end these abusive practices will help prevent others from having to go through this. It is no way to have to live.

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    1. I’m really sorry you have, like many of us, a health-care system that doesn’t care, completely lacking in oversight and accountability. One day, the pharmaceutical drug-pushers will be held accountable for the harms they have intentionally reap on our society. 400,000 deaths already due to opioids, most of which never should have been prescribed in the first place. I’m sorry this happened to you.
      If you make your way to cannabis state, where healing without harm is not-illegal, and even though undoubtedly now poor, you can still grow your some of your own medicine when you’re not bed-ridden, you can start to heal.
      Really sorry we have such monstrous health-care. Barb

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